Band Aid -
February 28, 2001 - Chris Jones
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material afoot.
Fine, yes, "All your base are belong to us" has escaped into the
mainstream. Good riddance.
Don't say we didn't warn you.
Something I didn't get a chance to mention yesterday: the FF Movie
portraits. I'm quite certain they don't do the actual animation justice,
but at the same time I was surprised at how completely boring everyone
looked. When all's said and done, these people have the same complete
lack of personality as the make-a-face of a Might and Magic hero.
Even the generic soldier head shots in FFT had far more humanity and warmth
to them. But for now, I'm just gonna hope that having decent voice actors step into
the rolls will turn these dead-eyed shells in to real people.
Onward.
More bands than you
can shake a stick at |
Greetings, Mr. Agent.
Aha, music during RPG playing. Now here's someplace I can dig into some
serious thinking. Parasite Eve goes excellently with feminist propaganda
music howling from my computer speakers. but mostly I play FF games lately,
so here's what's on my musical agenda alongside the games: Final Fantasy 6
goes well with quirky techno groups like Men Without Hats, Kraftwerk, and
MI-SEX (Kefka gets Devo's "Blockhead" as his new theme, Mog does the Safety
Dance, etc). FF7 plays well with Steppenwolf's "Monster" as the opening
track, then segues into the ambient collective: Deep Forest, Tangerine
Dream, Klaus Schulze, Brian Eno, Bjork, Denki Groove's "Niji" remixes, and
Enya (Utah Saints, though, plays at the end). FF8 gets any one of a hundred
bands from the 90's grungy/alternapop days. Anything about not caring that
you don't even care about caring about anything etc will do. FF8 also goes
well with Devo, curiously enough, particularly the "Eyes on Me" Scene,
which does a MUCH better job of being gross when put to "Pink Pussycat."
Collective Soul and Smashing Pumpkins tie the ending together. FF9 goes
with all of the above, since it's retro in even a musical sense. Led
Zeppelin replaces the crystal theme at the end of the final dungeon (Yeah,
"Stairway" ...again...). The best combination I have found so far is to
listen to Deep Forest while navigating your way through the Mognet Central
side-quest. Too perfect. And of course Hawkwind's "Chronicle of the Black
Sword" album enlivens any fantasy story you happen to be playing. Nice and
easy. Can't tell my dad's a techno musician, can you? Yep, it's a family
business.
LORD ITLAN and PRINCESS FIREBALL |
That's really more thought given to the issue than any sane person
should have given to it.. but I gotta say, there are some damn cool ideas
there, and some combinations I would have never thought of (or wanted to).
Pixielated |
I think, that if I could have any combo of a band and
a game, it would have to be Chrono Trigger and the Pixies. Why? Because
the Pixies sang about outer space, time travel, and all sorts of weird
stuff. They were always kinda loopy, and when I think of way out, loopy
RPGs, Chrono Trigger just comes to mind.
Heck, I'll bet half of you don't even know who the Pixies are. Oh well.
Negative Creep
|
Come On Pilgrim, I think you're making a Gigantic mistake to think that
any of us Doolittle enough not ever to have heard of the Bossanova Trompe
Le Monde of the Pixies.
Ok, that was lame, but it was all I could think of, and I really wanted
to get a Pixies letter in. Sue me.
Yet another band you're
supposed to never have heard of |
Hio,
Funny you should ask. Right now i'm listening to a band who i think would
sound pretty good in FF7. You've probably never heard of them though. The
band i speak of is Failure. Don't let the name fool you though; their cd
Fantastic Planet is great. Also i think Nine Inch Nails would sound cool on
just about any game.
The Gunslinger, thinking you've never read the Dark Tower series since you
said King doesn't write very well. |
One of the bonus side effects of having this topic is seeing how
many people sent in letters suggesting their favorite band, quite
certain that no one else in the world knows about them, when in reality
every other letter was about that band. Ok, so I didn't get that
many letters about Failure, but they're hardly that unknown... heck, I
seem to have done the best job of anybody of having obscure tastes in
music, since nobody else at all mentioned Dire Straits, despite the
fact that Romeo & Juliet's just about the greatest love song ever.
And good grief, yes, of course I've read The Gunslinger series. I like
a lot of King's work: I've read through The Stand more times than I care
to admit. It's not Watership Down, but it's close. At the same time, I
can't look at the guy and say he's a good writer, but I will say
that a lot of the stiff he does write is compelling enough so that you
don't care.
Two morbid tastes that
taste morbid together |
Chris,
I would put Dead Can Dance and the Legacy of Kain franchise together. Talk
about a perfect match...
--white mage |
Hmm... the thing is, I don't remember anybody in any of the Kain
games dancing... and Raziel isn't really dead, he's sort of dead dead.
Still, could work.
None of the above |
Insert music of mainstream performers into games?
Why on earth would I want to do that? First of all, in all seriousness,
I greatly enjoy game music and find it to be some of the best music
I listen to, all the more so when it is a remix of actual instruments, such as
Brink Of Time for Chrono Trigger, or Orrizonte for Suikoden 2. Second
of all, game music servers a very specified purpose-although potentially
pleasing to the ears, its primary function is to immerse the player in the
environment. RPG's do this better than any other genre, and funny you
should mention Persona, because the crazy eeriness of its music matches
with its world perfectly. Game and RPG music has the ability to be
continuous; although I love Nick Drake, his songs are a few minutes
long and I would not want to listen to Pink Moon repeatedly the way
I would for the peaceful theme of a village in Suikoden. I believe this
would be overdoing it. Of course some games have crossed that line,
(think Y's, I have never played the any of the games, but the music is
powerful and I actually think hearing it in a game might be an overload
while everything else is going on) but better over it than under it.
-Nick Herman
|
Nick raises an excellent point, and one that I won't argue with,
although I will say it's incomplete. A lot of game music is superb, and as
the above letter points out, does a great job of conveying a specific
mood. However, just about any game music collection breaks down because
it's done by one composer (or a tightly knit team) and even as it strives
for range, it can't quite pull it off.
The CC OST's probably the greatest
soundtrack I've ever heard, but it can't escape the fact that it's
Mitsuda's brain child. The delicate village pieces sound like Mitsuda
delicate village pieces, the vibrant intro sounds like a Mitsuda vibrant
intro, and the rock opera sounds like a Mitsuda rock opera. in some ways
this is good, but there are times in a game where a drastic change of pace
and perspective is needed, where the game stops being about a kid
searching for a trivial relic and starts being about a man fighting for
everything good in his life. And at that point, completely different music
would do wonders to help illustrate situation. Shelve the Mitsuda, crank up the
Garbage, in other words.
I told you my
doppelganger was out there |
Dearest Agent,
I work in marketing, and now that you're on to Us, I guess We have no choice
but to disgrace you. Whether you like it or not, you're going to become the
centerpiece of "Out!" magazine's new publicity campaign. "Chris Jones and 'Out!':
The Choice of a Gay Generation."
However, all will be forgiven if you could somehow persuade Ozric Tentacles
to perform the soundtrack to a quirky 2D side-scrolling space shooter in the
Konami/Treasure vein. I get sort of tired of the techno which seems to infest
the genre like a nest of vinyl-spinnin' termites (except for the Gradius series,
may its faithfulness to traditional electronic orchestra rock be blessed for all
eternity), and the Ozrics' weird, spacey, alternatingly manic and ambient sound
would be perfect for an odd shooter. Choaniki need not apply.
Or failing that, Tangerine Dream or Enya would be perfect for a Xenogears sequel:
guaranteed to put you to sleep in half the time.
Your evil marketing doppelganger,
J. Parish |
Tch tch... JP, you're projecting your own bishounen
fixation at me again. And I'm flattered, really, but I'm just not
interested. Sorry.
I do like Ozric because of their more laid back sound. For heavy duty
techno to move me, it has to really move me - it has to be very
fast, and very dense, and very loud, and make me feel like the entire
universe just jumped to light speed. Most game music fails miserably at
this, which shouldn't be surprising, since, let's face it, if those
composers could make that kind of music, they wouldn't bother tying it
to a game to begin with. Ozric Tentacles have a sense of fun that you
don't often see, and while I can't really imagine what it'd be like to
put them in a shooter, I'd like to see them try.
And for all of those people who wrote in about how great Enya would be
in an RPG, it's JP that trashed her, not me. Go firebomb his house, ok?
All gone to look for
Americana |
Chris,
Should there ever be another Earthbound, I would want
Pere Ubu to do the soundtrack. The "trek across
Americana" theme of Earthbound would certainly fit
well with the road trip concept of Cloudland and
assorted songs from other albums, and Pere Ubu is just
weird enough to suit the game.
-A. Moore |
Good call. Not a lot more to say. Next!
For the more refined
palette |
Hi, Chris,
Is it too late to mail you my wish list of musician & game combo?
Anyways~ It would be great if Philip Glass can do music for Resident
Evil or even FF Movie~ (okay, that's not a game...) He is a master at
using patterns of notes to create a perfect mood-setting music. Mr.
Glass’s style would enhance the game without taking away the player’s
attention.
Ennio Morricone can also be a perfect composer for a Final Fantasy...His
music can always touch people’s heart so deeply, that people remember
the visuals with the melodies in their heart. And the pieces can all
work with the environment at the same time.
How about Igor Stravinsky or Modest Mussorgsky for Front Mission?
Gioacchino Rossini for Castlevania? endless (impossible) possibilities~!
.... You did say ANY band/musician, right~? :)
Sincerely,
Hanna |
I'd actually love to see some serious music in games. Not
that I have anything against pop/rock/electronica/etc., but I'm not
enough of a philistine to suggest that, from a pure music standpoint,
it can really hold a candle to many of the people above.
And I'd love to say more, but my mind can't quite get past the insanely
brilliant mismatch of Philip Glass and Resident Evil. Lady, what on earth
have you been smoking?
Pray for Pray |
I'm one of the two who saw that documentary, so
don't feel too bad. Read anything by Douglas Rushkoff?
Moby and Metroid? That would be interesting. Though I think Tangerine Dream
would be more appropriate, based on their spaced-out Mars Polaris album. Moby
would be good for another Einhander game, if Square made one. Then again, I
liked the Einhander soundtrack a lot, so I'd rather see more by that artist
than yet another Moby album.
Actually, I'd like to see music like the FF-Pray album in the FF series. Is
that too obvious?
-Sanagi |
Rushkoff's pretty good, but media criticism for me is like a heavy
sushi meal - excellent every once in a while, but not something you
want too much of.
And your mention of FF Pray, or any FF remix album, is interesting.
I've thought for a while that one thing that'd strengthen game music is
to have fewer, but better, tracks. A remix track is often far more
powerful than the original, and in many cases I'd probably be a lot
happier to have just background noise for most of the game, and a really
killer piece of music just when the story demands it. If RPG battles were
real, all the fighters would likely hear is the sound of weapons colliding
and the occasional gust of wind, so why should a game be any different?
The Wall? THE
WALL!?!!? (sorry, slight in-joke) |
I'm not sure what band I'd want to do a whole game
soundtrack- maybe Pink Floyd or REM because I like them and they
don't seem to mind bizzare projects. I do, however, know that I'd like
to see the trademark Annoying J-Pop Final Fantasy Songs replaced by
songs by, say, songs by the Dave Mattews Band. If I'm going to listen to
cheesy love songs, they may as well be ones by someone who gets
cheesy love songs right.
-Davon |
I don't much care for anything the DMB's done recently, but I do
think the idea of having a more Western spin on cheesy love songs is
an intriguing one. Of course, since the games are made in Japan it's
unlikely ever to happen, but one can dream... in this column, at least.
What, no Rolling
Stones? |
Hello! I had a strange dream where my favorite classic
bands duked it out to control the universe. It took place in a large
clearing in the forest with a small town resembling Kalm town. The Who
arrived first. They were a bunch of street brawlers who just came from
the local pub. They were carrying clubs, chains, knuckles, and looking for a fight.
Then, Jimi Hendrix galloped in on horseback with his gypsy bandmates to set up
camp for the night. Jimi got off his horse and cast a fire spell to get the fire burning.
The Who spotted them and started to advance, but then they were hit by a large blast
from the rear. Grandmaster Mage Jimmy Page and the rest of Led Zeppelin were
standing there with smirks on their faces and fire in their eyes. They began to brawl.
Then, Jim Morrison strolled in and threw a bag of poison shroom dust into the fire
where the Jimi Hendrix Experience were relaxing. They were temporarily paralyzed
and the Doors began to wail on them. A sharp scream came out of the woods and
everyone had to cover their ears in fear of going deaf. Janis Joplin was making her
move, but then Robert Plant screamed back at her with an equal power. The two ran
off to battle it out. Then, a barrage of rocks and logs started hitting everyone. A large
group of wild natives were waiting in the woods starting out with an aerial attack. It was
Sly and the Family Stone and they charged with their full force in to the melee.
Meanwhile, the Beatles calmly strolled through the battle annihalating anyone in their
path. No one could touch them because they were obviously the Masters of the Musical
Universe. If this could be made into a large scale 3D fighting game or an RPG, I would
be content to only play that game and nothing else. Thank you.
Tom "bad trip" Cushing |
Judging by your musical tastes, you must be in your mid-50's, which
makes you pretty much the oldest person I've ever received a letter
from. So thank you for that, sir. And now I'll have someone help you
out to your car, since I know your eyesight isn't what it used to be.
Closing Comments:
Good col today. For tomorrow, I do believe we'll turn our attention to
the GBA. Between the new Castlevania and the return of some old favorites
(the real F-Zero) the GBA's feeling like a palm-sized SNES... and
that makes me very happy, for some reason. So send me your thoughts on the
matter, and I'll see you tomorrow. Later.
-Chris Jones, still thinks
Alison Krauss has the best voice anywhere. Anywhere.
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