At the movies -
December 7, 2000 - Chris Jones
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GIA. There is coarse language and potentially offensive
material afoot. Omnivores are cool.
Don't say we didn't warn you.
Let me advance a potentially unpopular hypothesis, if I may:
What if the Final Fantasy Movie, is, for us, no different than the
Pokemon movie was for the under 12 set? Or reaching further back,
the Rugrats movie, the Power Rangers movie, Transformers, etc.
Yeah, we're older, and I'd hope we're smarter, but are we really
any less susceptible to hype? What if, despite the cutting edge
visuals, the movie ultimately comes down to cheaply exploiting
things we're deeply attached to? How would we feel if Sakaguchi
does something stupid, like work in a Chocobo for one "wacky"
scene completely out of line with the rest of the movie? How much
are we willing to forgive to see an FF movie on the big screen?
Thoughts like these keep me awake at night.
I probably need to get out more.
Onward.
Imagine the
possibilities |
To say that Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within will present technology and
graphics that are state of the art is an understatement. It should
redefine the art itself, crack the industry wide open. It should grab the
moviegoer by his Tifa-lusting throat and declare itself emperor over the
realms of animated escapism. The movie poster should feature Aki standing
atop a pile of Disney-drawn rubble, brandishing Jar Jar Binks' head on a
pike.
I saw the eye, I couldn't tell the difference. I watched the movements and
thought there were people masquerading beneath pixel cloaks. The
computer-generated fantastic has never been this visually real before, and
any animated movie that wants to capture my attention from here on will
have to meet the Final Fantasy standard.
Did you see Titan: AE? If not, you're like most of the world, and you
missed out. The computer generated environments in that movie blew the
scalp off my head as well, but it hardly broke the industry wide, as it
could and probably should have. Final Fantasy shouldn't suffer this fate,
as it has a certain guaranteed viewer base, those millions of us who
triumphed attaining the rat tail for Bahamut, who got misty when Palom and
Porom petrified themselves, who felt the flames of Sephiroth's town
burning. Further proof? A plug for a favorite website,
upcomingmovies.com, where the Final Fantasy page is the third most visited
2001 release.
The scary part? Ebert gets at it. What happens when the almost real
replaces the really real? Research the interesting rumors that engulfed
Andrew Nichols' (director of Gattaca) next film, Simone (again, go to
upcomingmovies.com for great coverage). For a while people thought a
computer generated character would replace a real one, and no one was
thrilled. I wouldn't be thrilled if computer generated characters started
to replace fleshy humans in the mainstream, but I thrill at the idea of a
new era of animated media. And isn't it exciting finally to be truly
scared by the prospect of science fiction come alive? It feels as though
technology's racing faster than ever before, and this movie is The Next Big
Thing. Nothing less, nothing more.
Daniel McNamara (Talan, to a few old friends)
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Always nice to start off with some unabashed enthusiasm. Yes, the
movie looks great, and I've been salivating over it for years. But
your own example of Titan A.E. shows that looking great isn't always
enough, not when it's tied down with a mediocre plot and boring
characters. Nearly any of the recent FFs have had better characters
than what we get in most sf films, tho, so there's still a chance of
seeing something worthwhile.
On the other hand, I have no problems with CG replacing reality.
George C. Scott once said that an actor in a movie is of slightly less
importance than the key grip (who's the guy that moves stuff around
between shots), and if you think about it, it's true. Actors are rarely
better than the lines they've been given by the writers, and the
situations they're placed in by directors. A good actor is almost always
someone who's just doing what they're supposed to do, rather than
botching it up... the only reason we think they're important is because
they're the only people we end up seeing, once everything's said and done.
That being the case, why not go totally virtual?
Behind the TIME, or in
front of it? |
O Overloarding Double Agentman,
Ebert is nothing TIME magazie ran a FULL PAGE ARTICLE on the Final Fantasy
Movie over 3 months ago. Ebert is a little behind.
Rayeth,
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Right, but there's a few differences here, the big one being that
Ebert's speaking as a film critic, as opposed to TIME or any of
the major newsweeklies, who pretty much just parrot what marketing
departments tell them to when it comes to technology. (I say this as a
devoted Newsweek subscriber, because I cringe whenever they start
talking about games.)
Which isn't to say that Ebert's not slightly suspect here: his past
reviews have always shown a preference for the latest in the newest and
shiniest FX. Not that I can't relate, it's just that after reading his
review of The Cell (which other reviewers scared me away from entirely),
I do have to wonder about his judgement when it comes to this stuff.
No, not that Bob, the
other one. No, I mean, the other other one. |
This is in response to your intro on RPG character
names. I once read somewhere (and have since accepted as fact) that
the strange names are so-called not so much to make them sound
fantasy-like, but to prevent problems that occur when renaming them during the game.
For example, if your name is "John", you may change the main character's name
to John. However, what if a character appears later on that is also named John?
Creates many problems, no? I doubt there any many people out there named, say,
Cid...
~Alex M. |
Attacking the problem from the other angle, I'd say that this approach
ends up hurting games these days nearly as much as it helps them. It's one
thing to have fantasy names if you're living in a fantasy world, but if
you're going for realism, it's just distracting. Squall was an ordinary
type guy with some not-uncommon problems, so why not call him "Steve", or
something, to emphasize the character rather than the weather condition
he's named after?
Of course, I could just rename the characters myself, but it's far
easier to whine and complain about it... more fun, too.
Double Agent: reaching
out to non-gamers since... yesterday! |
Okay, you've finally posted a topic that I might have something useful to
comment about.
This past weekend I went with my wife to see The Grinch....and before the
movie we saw a preview trailer for Final Fantasy. This was my first time
to see what it's gonna be like on the big screen. I don't really have much
to say about the mechanics of the trailer itself...of course it's
state-of-the-art wow-o-vision and the techno-geek in me thinks it's gonna
be really cool.
However...I'm also getting a feeling that this isn't going to be a big US
commercial success. The mood in the room after the trailer wasn't "oooo!!!
aaah!!!! wow-I've-gotta-see-that!" It was "what the crap was that?" It's
very busy, futuristic, loud, and sci-fi with no famous faces to identify
with. You've got some famous voices, but I'm willing to bet that most of
the kids and parents in the room there to see Jim Carrey be the Grinch (and
there were a TON) either didn't realize or care about the CG.
Perhaps Ebert and friends saw more to get excited about when they made the
trek to Hawaii. All I know is that I wasn't too thrilled with the 2
minutes of loud generic sci-fi business that exploded on the big screen
before my eyes. I'm still hopeful that they've got a good movie with a
cool plot and interesting characters...but if they want to make it a
blockbuster they need a better marketing strategy...they need to do
something else to reach out and connect with the millions of movie-going
Americans who have never heard of Final Fantasy.
Daniel |
Standard disclaimer time: the above letter is from an old friend of
mine, who's not a hardcore console gamer but knows enough about computers,
technology, sf, and other stuff to make his opinion worthwhile from a
statistical standpoint: someone who's halfway between this column and
the rest of the world, in other words.
And in this case, he hits the nail on the head - the FF movie will have
to be more than just a tech demo to get people excited about it, and
that's not the impression it's giving off thus far. More than that, Square
seems to be caught in a dilemma, because what gamers want out of a movie
is likely to be different from what will pull in the masses. Square could
make the best movie in the world, but it still might not be a hit with
the Titanic crowd.
Of course, the Grinch crowd is probably the wrong market to push this
thing on, anyway. I'd suggest something like Crouching Tiger Hidden
Dragon, if I wasn't afraid that it won't end up even more marginalized
than FF. Still, if Toy Story 2 and The Matrix can be successful, there's
hope yet.
Hang on, you're not
supposed to die just yet... |
Secret Agent Man:
Yeah, Mr. Ebert hyping the Final Fantasy movie must be a good thing, because
I think people still believe the man's opinion is valid. I just hope that
Columbia markets the hell out of this thing, so that my beloved Square stays
alive long enough to commit seppuku with a sword called PlayOnline.
-Mar, humming the bassline |
Yeah, but think of it this way: what kind of an RPG would it be if
there were no daunting obstacles to overcome? (Preemptive strike
before someone else gets to it: "A Square game!") If Square does pull
this off, they'll be king of the gaming universe, and if not, at least
they died trying.
Roger Ebert doesn't
know what he's talking about, but it's ok |
Double-Agent Jones,
First off, I think a lot of the initial reviews and previews of the FF
Movie are going to be done by prople, like Roger Ebert, who have never
actually played the game, and are reviewing with refreshingly little
context. That said, I think we're in for quite a motion picture. It's a new
realm for Square and it's my greatest wish that they are successful in this
veture, if only because, how awesome would it be to have a Final Fantasy
film series?
Granted, while there is always the feisty old-schooler that says "well,
sure it's pretty good, but it's not 'Final Fantasy' enough" I don't think
we'll be starved for entertainment. If there's one thing that Square does
well, it's delivering quality products.
I can't imagine that some old-schoolers getting upset over the movie not
being "traditional" or "old-school" enough. Would even the most hardcore
old-school FF freak really want to see an animated feature in 16-bit? I
thought not. I think the old-schoolers that disapprove of the film will be
so caught up in dismantling the plot and dismissing it as "not traditional
enough", that the graphic prowess will simply pass them by, sadly.
I think what I find most distrubing about "old-schoolers" is that they
don't recognize the series as a whole as being an evolving and changing
beast from one to the next. I believe that this upcoming film is the natural
exstention of that. Hopefully, there will come a time when the lines between
movies and games not only blur, but they become seamlessly intertwined. When
that does eventually come around, no doubt the "old-schoolers" will be
longing for, and still whining about, those old by/poly gone days.
Personaly, I hope they will still be putting "Final Fantasy" on the
label.
~EidosWetsuit |
I was a little disappointed I didn't get any response back from the
old school crowd themselves about this. (Perhaps I scared them away?)
But I've seen enough letters in general from them to speculate on what
their answers would have been: that FF was a decent game series that
became watered down and lost its roots when it became "mainstream" and
started concentrating on more modern plots, that the series has moved
from interesting stories about real heroes and destiny to brooding
teenagers and confusing psychobabble, and that the FF movie will simply
be the final desecration of a loved one's grave.
And while I might disagree with the language, there is a grain of
truth in there, much as I hate to admit it. The FF movie's not just an
extension of a popular gaming series, it's likely an attempt to lure new
gamers in, as well. I doubt we'll see anything like "Final Fantasy: The
Movie: The Game", but there will be people inspired to give the series a
try after the movie comes out... and gosh, they may just stumble on to
FFX, conveniently released in the US a few months after the movie! (I think.) I'm
not one of those who thinks RPGs have been hurt in any way by their
increased popularity in the PSX era, but it does make you wonder how
mainstream the PS2 FFs are gonna get. We shall see...
So wait... the game's
set in a nuclear plant? |
howdy,
so i was browsing through some snapshots of Persona:Eternal Punishment,
and who did i find?
MR. BURNS!!!!!!!!!
yours cruelly,
opultaM Forward |
What else can I say but...
"Excellent."
Closing Comments:
Free topic day tomorrow... which is kind of a misnomer, since the
topics aren't any more free than they usually are, it's just that
there aren't any on this particular day. Although I guess I could
provide one if given enough financial incentive... but that would make
tomorrow "expensive topic day", wouldn't it? I dunno, just send me some
email. Later.
-Chris Jones, in widescreen
and Dolby Digital THX |
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