Let the feast of fools begin! - June 22, 2000 - Chris
Jones
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed within this column are those of
the participants and the moderator, and do not necessarily reflect those of the GIA. There
is coarse language and potentially offensive material afoot. Calling Elvis, is anybody
home? Don't say we didn't warn you.
We got a lot of good emails on dumbass things people have done in games, several of
which made me laugh out loud as they came in, which made everybody at work look funny at
me. But no matter, I think you'll enjoy this.
And just for the sake of fairness, let me start off with one of the many, many stupid
things I've done in my many years of game playing: I didn't realize you could change the
level of your Limit Breaks in FF7 until after I was done with the whole game. Yep, I
played through thinking Cross Slash was as good as it got.
Needless to say, Omnislash looked comparatively much more interesting...
Onward.
Starting off easy |
The stupidest thing I have ever done in a game would have to be messing
up my Gran Turismo 2 save by turning my playstation off a nanosecond before the game
finished saving. This game must have had at lest 50 hours of game time on it. I finished
all of the events, all of the endurance races and most of the manufacturers events. I had
almost every significant car, even the rare ones. Not to mention the time I spent fine
tuning. I actually felt my heart stop upon discovering that I couldn't load. Biggest pain
in the ass ever. -Sideshow Jeff |
This wasn't real bright of Jeff, but I suspect we've all done something similar at one
point or another. I've never lost a console game that way, but I have deleted more than a
few computer files by accident, even after I was repeatedly asked "Are you sure you
wish to delete?" It happens.
Mo' better |
In FFT I didn't know you could change jobs, so I went into the first boss
battle with just squires and chemists. I got slaughtered! |
Not bad, but it would have been funnier if you'd leveled up through random battles to
the point where you actually beat the game with nothing but 99 year old squires and
chemists.
Well, most books do vaporize after being read |
My personal Dumbest Mistake was working 4 hours into Vagrant Story and
refusing to use Grimoires, because I thought they were one-time 'spell' items like FFVI's
magic rods. Needless to say, before I realized my mistake, I cleaned out my curative items
and wondered when the hell I was going to learn some magic... SonicPanda |
Many people I know didn't want to mess with the Grimoires right away, in case they were
limited use items and because they were doing so well without them. Heck, I finished the
game without using a few elemental alignment spells at all, meaning I'm short the full
compliment of magic on my second play through.
Again, it would have been funnier if you'd finished the game without realizing this,
but not bad.
To dust, I guess *Xenogears spoilers* |
CJ, On a side note from a letter from yesterday: "Deus ex
Machina" is actually the title to the latest Smashing Pumpkins CD. It is really too
bad that they plan to break up at the end of their world tour. I like that band.
Really stupid things I've done in a video game? I know you'll probably get many letters
about stupid things done in FF Tactics, but mine could be a contender. I did not know
until the end of chapter 1 that each town had a shop where you could buy items. I lived
off of "war trophy's" potions and phoenix downs for way to long.
I also did a stupid thing in FF7, I played in front of my parents. During the whole
Midgar scene they constantly were watching me play and asking me questions like "Is
Barret from a mixed marriage?" and stuff like that. It ruined the first part of the
game for me. I understand that they had just spent $345 for a Playstation, memory card,
and FF7, and wanted to watch me enjoy it, but that really was too much to handle.
Which leads me to a question, do you play games in a room by yourself? I absolutely
feel I have too, for the sake of the story. I've been known to skip dinner several nights
in a row because of intense game playing sessions (witness pretty much the entire game of
Xenogears) . I just hate having to explain my RPGs to other people, in addition to them
trying to be funny about them (I actually had a friend ask "Where is the blood?"
after I showed them the FMV of Aries being stabbed. Thank God I had already beaten the
game at that point). What's your opinion?
-Red Raven, 6 RPGs short of being hardcore. *sigh* |
I like the thing about item shops, it's very much in the "digging your way through
the mountain because you don't see the tunnel" mindset. Your ignorance amuses me
greatly, Raven.
Your question leads me into some thoughts I've had recently about games and suspension
of disbelief. It should be obvious that just about any story depends on having an audience
in a receptive state for its really big moments - if you walk in right as Luke's screaming
"That's impossible!" in Empire Strikes Back, the scene plays much more
poorly. Narratives generally start off with neutral characters and gradually increase the
audience's affection (or hatred) for them to the point where there's enough emotional
investment to allow lines like "You had me at hello."
Well, usually there's enough.
Games have an advantage and a disadvantage here. An average RPG runs around 30-40 hours
of play, which means a player has a LOT of investment in seeing what happens to a
character. This investment means that when the payoffs come, they seem much more
compelling than in other media, but it also means that lame situations are accepted much
more easily. It often doesn't matter that the dialog is bad, or the plot is trite - you
want to see what happens. Add in the fact that many games feature Japanese characters who
appear intrinsically strange to Americans, and you have a situation rife for
misunderstandings if not outright ridicule.
This was made abundantly clear to me when I was over at someone's house and a roommate
was playing Xenogears. It was right at the first Fei/Elly mech battle, which I had found
fairly compelling during my (solo) play through. Here it was comedy on par with the
Simpsons, from the bizarre expression on Elly's face after the Drive kicked in to the
little hearts that came out when Vierge hit something. Perspective is everything, in games
and out of them, so you're probably best staying away from those without the right
perspective while playing.
The most hated man in America, kind of |
Hey Chris Holy crap. You've become the Lars Ulrich of Emulation.
Donald
Ps I'm still a little cranky. End of Course exams coming up and i'm spending my time
eating chocolate and not caring about anything until TRIBES 2 and CC come out. |
This seriously cracked me up, so thanks, I think.
Last emulation rant, I promise |
I decided I had to speak after your little anti-emulation rant yesterday.
I'm going to have to confess that I a big time emulation fan. I have a very large supply
of roms and am constantly on the lookout for new translations and such (I have played
FF4's original version translated into English, FF5 translated long before FF Anthology
ever came out here, SD3 translated, and even FF2j and FF3j both translated to English, the
old nes titles we never got.) However, I never really feel guilty about using them. Maybe
it's partly because the oppurtunity seems too great to pass up for moral qualms. But
another way I have justifying it is the way that companies make estimates of their losses
to piracy. When an estimate of monetary loss because of piracy is made, the company just
estimates how many copies are used, and multiplies by the cost of the product. However,
this method's fatal flaw is that it assumes that every single person would have bought the
original, had other methods not been available. This is obviously far from the truth, as I
would never have actually bought the games without the availability of emulation, so I am
really not denying the company money they would have gotten otherwise. They wouldn't have
gotten my money either way.
I'm sure your next argument is that "you are still playing the game that they
worked so hard on for free." Well I don't really know what I can say to that one. You
are right that they worked hard, and deserve cash for it, but just how much money does
Square still get from sales of FF2j, FF3j and FF5 for example. I'm willing to bet not a
whole lot.
But anyway, it's just mostly that the temptation is too great. I mean FF2j, FF3j, FF4j,
and FF5, all in English nonetheless? There is even a re-translation of FF6 in the works.
How could anyone pass that up? Call me whatever you want, but I just don't see how such a
great oppurtunity could be ignored.
Wooflord |
I have to admit something - I played through part of the FFV translated ROM. It got old
quick, since being on the computer wasn't as good as on the TV, and FFT was waiting.
There's also the little matter of me purchasing the Japanese cart a few years prior (still
have it) but I'm not a complete emulation virgin.
I know temptation, I understand temptation. Temptation is a good friend of mine. That
still doesn't give you the right to play hacked ROMs you haven't paid for, like it or not.
And your own letter has the logic needed to refute itself: how much money does Square get
from FF2j and 3j? None of course, as it doesn't sell them over here. But just as there are
those who wouldn't have bought the games when they can play the ROMs for free, there are
those who would. There is a demand for those games, and that demand is Square's to satisfy
or not as they see fit. It may be that the ROMs cutting in to the demand are the
reason why the games haven't been brought out here: who would play a 10+ year old game for
the NES who hasn't played the ROM already? Well, I would.
The bottom line is that no matter how odious it may be that the guy with the one
remaining copy of Action Comics #1 uses it for toilet paper, it still ain't yours to
steal. But in many ways this is purely academic - I know that no matter what I say people
are still gonna do it, and not feel real guilty about it. I don't even care that much, I'm
not going to cross the street to spit at you if I catch you emulating. I'm not even gonna
leave the room if you fire up that SD3 hack, though I won't use it myself. Hell, I'll even
admit that emulation has it's place. If your copy of Zelda died years ago, but you bought
it fair and square, you have the legal and ethical right to have made a copy, and play
that copy at your discretion however you wish. But as for everything else, you don't have
the right. It's all just rationalization.
The Aussies proves me wrong |
In Thursday's letters page, you made the following comment on the ethics
of emulation: The problem with Brad's argument is the idea that people have some
sort of right to play old games that they don't own. "Gosh, I can't buy/afford them,
I might as well steal them!" But here's the deal: you don't have that right.
This may be true in the United States, but it's interesting to note that in several
countries, you *do* have that right. In Australia, and I believe in some European
countries, if a copyrighted work is out of print and the publisher refuses to sell you a
copy, you have the right to make a copy by any means necessary and can't be sued for
infringement.
Frankly, I think this approach makes more sense than the North American copyright law.
Copyright should, if anything, only allow authors and publishers to make a profit on each
work they produce, not to control what works the public can or can't see at all. Disney is
infamous for engaging in "copyright censorship": refusing to reprint certain
films and aggressively attacking anyone who attempts to distribute them, for the express
purpose of preventing anyone from watching films which Disney might be embarrassed by in
this day and age (e.g. Song of the South)
Speaking of Disney, they recently successfully lobbied to extend the duration of
copyright to 95 years. Yes, NINETY-FIVE F**KING YEARS. No copyright has entered the public
domain since 1922, and at this rate none ever will. The US Constitution specifically
states that intellectual property rights must be "for a Limited Time". Thomas
Jefferson must be rolling in his grave.
--AWJ-- |
This is a reasonable argument, although you might wonder what it means in some cases:
has FF2j gone "out of print", or could Square argue they "just haven't got
around to selling it in the US yet"? Is the slow-loading PSX copy of FF6 a legitimate
offering, or do they have to sell you the actual cart?
But if the law's on your side, I can't argue against you. The logic makes sense.
And yes, Disney is evil. But you should have known that by now.
I'm all right, but I'm no Special K |
If you could get this column worth economic credits, I would almost
worship you as my god... I REALLY don't wanna take a 8-9:50pm class.... You were
joking?....Crap...Well... at least a night class ain't a 8AM class...
-JWH
Remember kiddies...No matter how good intentioned you are, there is no way you're gonna
be able to get up earlier than 9 on a regular basis in college... |
I really was going to make the column worth a credit, but then I read the phrase
"good intentioned" and realized several of you still need more legitimate
education. I suggest you start with English class.
...says the man who once wrote "sounds like they was done by Yanni."
What, the bullets don't pass through you? |
Well...This isn't really a _stupid_ thing per se, but I'd say the best
"Moment of realization" I ever had in a game was the first time we played
multi-player DOOM back in High School and we figured out that we could shoot each _other_,
too, rather than only the aliens. We spent the next thirty minutes nailing each other
with the pistol right next to the spawn. (We didn't even want to get out of co-op mode, we
were having so much fun.) Every so often someone would wander off and get a shotgun, but
that didn't last long.
Mike Powers |
And that, children, is the story of how the Deathmatch came to be. So the next time you
make some punk eat rail gun ammo, remember to thank Mr. Powers and his crazed bunch of
rampaging Marines.
You should be one of those farmers that grows
dirt *Perfect Dark spoilers, I think* |
Hi Agent, Most of my stupidest game moments come from one of my
favorite games, Harvest Moon 64.
1. Accidentally hit my horse with the sickle.
2. Sickled the wrong plants and messed up my tomato patch.
3. This isn't stupid, but I'll say it anyway. I like to take out the automilker, go up
to people, and milk them.
Oh, and here's some from one of my other favorite 64 game, Perfect Dark.
1. I accidentally killed the president in the Alsaka stage. Stupid mines...
2. I never saw that door to the containment lab where you hide Elvis in Area 51 Escape
and was doing nothing for a few days, besides sedating Jonathan.
By the way, doesn't Elvis sound like Marvin the Martian?
Rune |
I gotta say, the automilking thing was my favorite letter of the day, despite not
actually being something done out of stupidity. Very Far Side-esque.
You're still one sick bastard for doing such a thing, however.
Closing Comments:
Many people pointed out that Weird Al's "Dare to Be Stupid" was used in the
Transformers movie, so this isn't the first time he's sold out. Still, it's a bit
depressing, I think.
To paraphrase Mel Gibson in Braveheart: "I may take your wives, but I'll never
take your freedom!" Your freedom to send in whatever the heck you like for Fridays,
that is. And what do I care, with your wives to keep me company? See you
tomorrow.
-Chris Jones, once wondered if equipping weapons really made a difference |
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