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Deep-seated biases, and taking pride in them - June 16th, 1999 - Allan Milligan

Disclaimer: The opinions expressed within this column are those of the participants and the moderator, and do not neccessarily reflect those of the GIA. There is coarse language and potentially offensive material afoot. Don't say I didn't warn you. :)


Someone recently wrote to me and chewed me out for the deep-seated biases I hold. They went on for about half a page, using just about every expletive I can think of in rapid succession. His finale involved declaring that he was the one true unbiased RPG fan in the world, and that Star Ocean 2 was "clearly superior."

I tossed it out, shrugging. So?

First off, this is a letters column, not a news story. The whole point of the exercise is to exchange opinions and flaunt personalities, and heaven forfend, those often involve biases. I make no claim that anything I write in this column is unbiased. Hell, I revel in my biases. I like Working Designs and don't think too highly of Pokemon. I have fond memories of the Turbografx, and will slag on the Virtual Boy at every opportunity. That's my perogative. If you want unbiased news, you're really in the wrong place.

More to the point, everybody has biases. Everybody. It's part of your decision-making process. Your past experiences and general tastes will influence how you react to new stimuli. You can attempt to minimize the influence and how apparent it is, but every time you write a reaction, your biases do play a role in how you express that reaction. It's no crime, it's nothing to get up in arms about.

The only problem is when people get high and mighty, and point fingers saying "that's clearly biased for/against such-and-so!" This is, almost without exception, a shorthand for "I think you're wrong." But since accusations of bias seem to hold much more weight (and require less effort) than actual, coherent arguments, they're pulled out by the simple-minded like Excalibur from the stone.

Revel in your bias. Love it. There's nothing wrong with it, and never was.

Xenogears vocals...

Allan,

The person who sings the vocal songs in Xenogears (there are actually two,but one of them is an out take that is only on the soundtrack album; it'sa vocal version of the overworld theme) name is Joanne Hogg. She's in agroup called Iona, which from what I've been able to find on the web isapparently a British/Irish folk/rock group. Unfortunately that's all I knowabout them since I've never heard any of their music.

One other thing to mention is that while the songs that are actually in thegame itself and the soundtrack are in English, they are in Japanese on thearranged soundtrack, Creid. (Creid is just the name of the album, by theway; the group that performs with Yasunori Mitsuda, the composer, is calledMillennial Fair.) However, the Japanese lyrics are not sung by Joanne Hogg,but by a Japanese singer named Tetsuko Honma.

There's an interview with Joanne in the liner notes to Xenogears, butunfortunately it's in Japanese. There's a translation up on the web ata site called the Musical World of Final Fantasy, which is atFFmusic.vovoid.com, but there's something wrong with their site at themoment and it is unaccessible.

Also, more information can be found about both albums at Soundtrack Central,www.soundtrackcentral.com. There are some nice reviews and discussion aboutboth of them.

Brian "Videogame Soundtrack Geek" Sebby


Tah and dah. And, for those wondering, we've got more information about the Working Designs music and vocals further down the page. Who says I don't aim to please? Besides my ex-girlfriends?

Fat bastard sex

I'M DEAD SEXY

Fat bastard

p.s. look at my sex body


I... I... god, I just keep on getting flashbacks to Austin Powers, mixed with porn movies. This is not a good thing. Ugh ugh ugh. Let's move on before I coat my monitor with vomit.

Correction

Denethor Greenleaf claimed that "Star Ocean 2's voice acting is a moundof petrified mule shit" is a simile. It is, in fact, a metaphor. Sayingit's LIKE a mound of petrified mule shit, or comparing it to such, wouldbe a simile. However, when you claim that it actually IS a mound ofpetrified mule shit (which is, of course, retorical -- it is obvious toanyone that acting can not, literally at least, be shit) is a metaphor.

-Makkuro "the bitter Swede who gives Americans lessons in the Englishlanguage"


Yep, half the population of the earth wrote in with this correction. Makkuro wrote it out completely and explained it fully, though, so he gets his printed. Plus I liked the irony of the Swede who corrects the English of the native speakers.

Confusion and regret

How can the FF Anthology retain Ted Woolsey's FF6 translation if they are making name changes? It was Ted Woolsey and his team's decision to change Tina to Terra and Cayenne to Cyan and etc and therefore it was his translation. Maybe your news story was misleading, because it says Terra will be Tina, but then implies Cayenne will still be Cyan?


Let me check our original article text. Here we are:

As previously reported, Final Fantasy VI will retain Ted Woolsey's English translation and name changes -- the heroine is Terra, not Tina, and Cyan is not named after a pepper.

I'm afraid you totally misread the article, somehow, which is sort of mystifying, since it's pretty explicit. The heroine is Terra, not Tina. It's the Woolsey translation. Ba dum bum.

More music banter

Well, ya asked for music information, so I felt inclined to oblidge. ^_^

Anyway, regarding the singer of the original Lunar: The Silver Star opening (called "Fighting Through the Darkness" I believe) - that would be Shiya Almeda. She not only sung the opening theme from TSS, but also the closing to Alundra and the opening to Magic Knight Rayearth. And yes, those two are both pretty bad as well, pretty much as cheesy and pop-rockish as you can get. Seems that a terrible vocal song is as much a Working Designs trademark as an excellent translation. WD president Vic Ireland seems to be the one who translated/rewrote the vocals to these (I'm almost positive he did that for Rayearth, and I assume he did the same for the others considering their poor quality), so he should take an equal amount of the blame.

I always cringe when I hear the words "all things are real unless you dream they're not" tumble out of Stigile's mouth in Lunar: SSSC's opening. The rest of the song is pretty good, actually - Stigile, unlike Almeda, is a pretty talented vocalist - but that one line sounds absolutely horrid.

Speaking of crappy vocals, I find "I am the Wind" from Castlevania: Symphony of the Night by Cynthia Harrell to be even worse than "Fighting Through the Darkness." Just felt like getting that off my chest.

As for the singer from Xenogears, that would be Joanne Hogg, one of the few VGM vocalists I can stand listening to. Xenogears' ending theme is probably my favorite VGM vocal song. She is not a member of the group that did the music from Creid - she's a member of Iona, the Celtic band that Jasconius mentioned in his original letter.

The people who did Creid (Millenial Fair) aren't actually an established group, really...they're more of a compilation of Yasunori Mitsuda's musician friends (including Celtic music artist Davy Spillane among others) who came together to perform Creid's arrangements. I think Mitsuda mentioned something to that effect in the Creid liner notes, at least.

Hope that helps. ^_^

Jason Strohmaier


Thanks for the clarifications, Jason. I think that solves that little case, non?

Tactics Talk

Herro thele!

I was readring your column letter and I thought...this's the way! I have a good feering! Many people are being saying that the translations in FFT are good not being! Har har! If you know, you can foresee! Learn and prepare for battles! Har har har! Being good FFT it is! Translations are being good! Just look at how good I am being!!!! This was the darkened Items won't appear! Seeing you? Off course! 'Learn' learns ability! Being going to there been when are Allan? Translation of mine is fine! Swords are for fighting not for playing! This you must be remembering! Soldiers perform many tasks throughout the battle; they're not just playing with swords. When in battle, not building sand castles are you, but instead fighting! No swords for you! These guy are sick! I even doing translation FF7 been working on! No, way! Leaving not doing yet! Har har har! What a silly being this game is! I have a good feering! This's the way, off course!

When items are being useded in battles, you must remember these words of advice! Items being used are Items that are consumed during battle! This you must be remembering, also!!! If you forgetted, overing the battle could be before you know it! Buy lots of phoernerix downs! LISTEN! Move is your moving ability! Movering around the board is how you move! If you can't move, then you will be in one place fer the wholer battle! My seeing has been going lately, as also! "Arrange" reorders the Items appearing on the list! But many persons are being telling me that that says Order! Off course! These silly persons! Bering foorish they are, don't think you? Har har har! Well, leaving I must be now!

This's the way! I will go to work on FFT2! I have a good feering!!!!!!

Daravon

P.S. This site has some other screen shots as well! Graphics


I think the good professor nails the issue pretty well here (and amusingly, too). If there is any remaining question, head down to Zany Video Game Quotes.

If there is ANY question that FFT has a crap translation at this point, I worry for the grammar skills of our nation's youth.

Star Ocean 2 resources

Hey there,

Yeah, it's a big shame Enix doesn't have a US site, know any decent Star Ocean sites? I've scanned the Internet via Yahoo, GoTo, and Mamma, and found nothing but porno, porno, porno!

OK, the graphics in Lunar suck, but it's fun. Get over graphics you ninny napping, Pippi Longstalking's Swedish ass bent over a wheelchair driven by Abe Vidgoda laughing, demonic doom playing, backwards driving, pant smacking, disc wearing, alarm clock waxing, wiener gobbling simpletons! Graphics are NOT everything...

-mista tea


We were going to do a big Star Ocean 2 guide at GIA, but a quick visit to GameFAQs quickly illustrated how pointless that is. There are 400+k walkthroughs and guides to the game. Between those files, and the GIA Star Ocean message board, any game help you could possibly need should be covered. As for general shrines to the game, I'm unaware of any at this point.

I'd have to play devil's advocate to argue the "graphics aren't everything" point, which would be a dumbass thing to do, so I'm not going to bother.

I miss nothing

Allan! I am ashamed at you! You missed an Evil Dead reference... have you never seen it? (or Army of Darkness for that matter)...If you don't know what I'm talking about, it's the last letter in your column yesterday... "Did the hand that was injured by the paper cutter get infected with the paper cutters evil, resulting in an interesting battle between you and your hand, ending in you chopping it off and shooting it, and later replacing it with a chainsaw?"For shame....

Oh anyways, gotta relate this to RPG's somehow...

Alright, I am playing through Xenogears for the first time (I know, I'm so out of it), and I know how long it is supposed to be. Now my question is - when you played it originally, did it seem like it was d-r-a-g-g-i-n-g along or did it hold your interest the whole time? Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the story. The gameplay is fairly bland but playing it is like reading a 3D novel. But every time I play it, it seems like more of a chore to finish. Is it just me, or did you have this feeling when playing it too?

~The shagadelic Lord Zur

Groovy baby, yeah!


First off, of course I recognized the Ash reference. I was just doing another schtick for my joke answer, and it would've been jarring to suddenly switch tracks and discuss the Evil Dead movies. So I left it be, assuming that my cultured and intelligent readers would spot the reference, smile, and move along without hand-holding.

As for Xenogears, I did find that it dragged in places, and genuinely disliked the second disc. I did enjoy the latter half of the first disc, though. Lots of movement there, lots of interesting plot developments, albeit ones expressed in overlong dialogue sequences.

Fear of faith

Allan-

Not a big Nintendo guy, are ye?

I can understand that. I actually bought an N64 in April of 97, and I don'tregret it. There's plenty of good stuff for the console, but you need tolook for it. You've got your Zelda, your Smash Brothers, your Goldeneye...Nintendo's the place to look for entertaining multiplayer action.

Sadly, those dumb (Censored... Censored... Oh, look! Still censored...)went with cartridges and alienated all of the RPG makers. Now all I have isthat piece of trash Quest 64 to play with. (That game is more useful as apaperweight.)

I bought a PSX a little while ago, so now I have the best of both worlds, Isuppose. I have faith that Nintendo hasn't abandoned RPGs, though. (Cananyone say "Dolphin"?)

--The Professor, Tom Lillis

www.totalrpg.com-- Columnist? I prefer "Horseman of the Apocalypse."


I grew up on Nintendo systems. For the longest time, Nintendo game was synonymous with video game, in my mind. I owned an NES, countless games, an SNES, a Game Boy, and beat just about every significant title available, and then some. I even read Nintendo fricking Power. Submitted high scores and everything. I was a big Nintendo guy.

But times change, and my blind loyalty to Nintendo disappeared when they stopped deserving it. The N64 is a flaming wreck in terms of RPG support. They released some truly putrid piles of shit like Crusin' USA, Killer Instinct in all its hideous incarnations, and Yoshi's Story. They ceased to be the development platform of choice for many of my favorite companies. More and more, Nintendo made it clear that their audience was the 6-12 year old set, and that everyone else can piss off. So I did.

There are some N64 games I enjoy, and play them when I get together with friends. No problem there. I recognize some of their recent titles, mainly Zelda, as being excellent pieces of work. But until Nintendo starts giving a rat's ass about anyone who's gone through puberty, I see precious little reason to buy their systems and games, much less treat them as the end-all be-all of gaming.

I don't hate Nintendo, for the record. I just don't follow them blindly any longer. I treat them like any other developer, on the same level as Sega, Capcom, Sony, Square, or Acclaim. No better, no worse.

Surgery

Mr. Milligan,

It is perfectly obvious why you still miss "her". You have a severeglandular dysfunction and probably personality problems. I recommendlengthy and unnecessary surgery, done by self for preference. Justreach in and pull out parts of your brain. This should solve most ofthe problem. If symptoms continue, contact physician immediately.

Dr. Osiris


Thank you very much. I don't know how I could've struggled through this crisis without your help. From the bottom of my spleen, I thank you.


Closing Comments

I'm considering just tossing this section, because I never have anything interesting to say here anymore. Ah well. See you tomorrow.

- Allan Milligan


 
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