Cubism, and other gaming revelations
- August 25, 2000 - Chris Jones
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed
within this column are those of the participants and the
moderator, and do not necessarily reflect those of the
GIA. If Metroid is back, can Battletoads be far behind?
Don't say we
didn't warn you.
The movers were supposed to be here with my TV, couch, etc. today,
but they were no-shows once more. So no Chrono Cross for me this weekend,
and I'm in a pretty ticked off mood because of it.
And by some darkly ironic twist of fate, I got about 10 times more
printable letters than I have room for (including many from GIA staffers, for some
reason), so a lot of people are gonna get shafted. Bummer, but at least we have
the beacon of Metriod 4 to keep hope alive... or do we?
Onward.
Look
closer |
Those "screens" have been all-but-confirmed by Nintendo
to be pre-rendered
FMV. In other words, that Samus Aran beauty is completely NON-indicative of
what the final game may look like.
It's also worth noting that the game is being developed by 1.5th party Retro
Studios, formerly known as Iguana. Iguana is best known for developing the
console ports of NBA Jam for Acclaim.
So some ex-Acclaim employees have rendered some FMV of Samus Aran --
to put
things in perspective. I'm looking forward to the game, but the
trigger-happy MGS2 bashing (a completely playable game) is getting to me.
- Andrew |
For me, the key fact here is that a next-gen Metroid exists at all. Yeah, to
be fair I gotta admit that MGS2 is farther along, and will probably be the
superior game when released. And to be even more fair, even for mockups those
shots aren't that great Samus looks a little more blurry than she should.
But good lord, man... it's Metroid! Lives there a gamer with heart so
dead that they're not immediately invigorated by the mere confirmation that the
game is in development? I'm sure there'll be plenty of time to tear the game
apart as it moves down the pipeline (and I'm skeptical anything could ever
match Metroid 3) but just let me enjoy the moment for now, okay?
Franchise timing is
everything |
Greetings Jones,
Will rehashes of the classics be enough to keep gamers interested, you ask?
Well I think Nintendo has a time-bomb gig going on, but they're playing their
hand as best as humanly possible... Sony's big flagship titles like Crash
Bandicoot, Tomb Raider, and Tekken have all gotten to the point where people
are bored stiff with 'em. Revision after revision came out, and now people don't
see what's new; only what's been ruminated. (Though Crash Team Racing didn't
drown itself, and could make a safe appearance on the PS2 as a sort of "farewell"
to the series..) Nintendo, for whatever it's worth, releases their Big Hitters very
rarely.. Instead of devoting themselves to sequels (ex. Crash, Crash 2, Crash 3,
CrashTR), we can instead rest assured that we'll see at least one appearance of
Mario, MKart, StarFox, and Zelda within the system's lifespan. The catch is that
we may well only see ONE of each in that generation, and we'll have to wait
bloody years for the next incarnation.
On one hand, it's hard to get tired of the games, as their appearances are so
limited; but on the other hand, the long wait gives players time to lose interest
and/or ruminate over the downsides. Luckily, Miyamoto's gameplay genious
transcends generations, which gives players less to moan about, and more to
become nostalgic about. The first real faltering I've seen is in Zelda 64's
gameplay -- after Mario's extreme level of freedom, some people were kinda
miffed about Zelda's control being so constrained. I just hope Mask of Majora
(which doesn't have Miyamoto's 'magic mushroom' touch) doesn't accidentally
add a handful of nails to the series' coffin...
They're rationing their time in the spotlight to maximize each series' lasting
power. They wait 'til they are quite sure the sequel will outperform its last
incarnation before releasing it. In my never-quite-humble-enough opinion, that's
why we're seeing a rehash of Zelda64 instead of a new Metroid 64; they had a
better chance of expanding Zelda than they had in doing Metroid justice with
only 150k poly/sec and blurry textures. Regardless, most of the time you've got
a guaranteed shot of outperforming a predecessor when working with hardware
that is 5 to 10 times as potent as the previous platform.
Overall, G3 is a very tight system -- in both dimension and concept. 6"x4"?
Rock on. The controller looks funkadelic, but I have a hunch it'll be comfortable
to hold for the masses. The media format, while generally incongruous, is
expansive enough for initial offerings, and cheap enough to utilize multiple discs
per game later on. Graphically, it will likely surpass PS2, and rival X-Box. DC's in
for some poor weather, though.. As for the Gameboy Advance, the 32bit
(16Mhz) CPU can do more than the SNES, but the rez is lower, sound is worse, it's
missing 2 buttons, and may be uncomfortable in American hands. Sure, it's fairly
potent considering its size, but reflect for a moment that the Gekko chip is the
size of a fingernail. That said, it will dominate among all handheld gaming
systems, help a number of gamers relive the "golden age," and I can tell ya that
I'll be importing one without question.
-Jagger~
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I like the way you think, and even though I suspect the pacing of
Miyamoto franchise games has more to do with how much he can actually do in
any given system's lifetime, the end result is the same. One of the great things
about Nintendo is how we keep revisiting the same ground, but with a new
perspective: we have more gaming experience under our belts, so we expect
more, we're older, so we expect different things while still wanting the nostalgia
of youth, and of course, technology has moved forward, leading us to expect
more graphical bang for our buck. And Miyamoto has delivered quite
satisfactorily, I think.
Nintendo gets
Progressive |
One quick question for you. Is there any news on if the
Game Cube will
support component video? The resolution's so much cleaner with that
compared to RCA. Of course, a normal component cable costs 40 bucks per
meter, so this might not be cost effective as of yet.
John
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I'm so glad you asked, John. From what I understand, the analog video out
is the same as the N64, and the SNES before that, meaning you can get an S-
Video adapter, but no component video. However, as the proud owner of a TV
with component video inputs (if they ever give it back to me, that is) I can say
that component video isn't that superior to S-Video, when all is said and
done. (And just in the interests of cementing my A/V geek status, there's not
much difference at all between 3 gold Radio Shack single RCA cables (about
$20) and the $40+ cables you've mentioned.)
But here's the kicker. According to IGN the Game Cube has a
digital VIDEO output cable, which means it can output a progressive-
scan signal for true HDTV. Make no mistake, this is one of the most important
things ever to happen to video game systems, even if we may not see
the results for a while. Once more, Nintendo scores some points with me.
Once more Steve Jobs has
reason to be ticked off... |
Hello Chris,
I believe the attached image requires no further explanation.
Later,
Spear. |
This was funny, but it also served to point out too more similarities
between the Game Cube and the current line of iMacs/Books: both come in a
wide array of colors and both have handles placed prominently. Hmm...
Just when you thought he
was gone |
Chris-maphone,
I just wanted to say that the Matsushita-designed storage disc Nintendo's
using in the Gamecube won't necessarily be the element of disaster some people
are declaring it will be. After all, the Dreamcast utilizes a proprietary disc format
that's smaller than the average DVD, and that hasn't stopped developers from
trying their hand with the system.
The two factors influencing Nintendo's decision are piracy and, yes, sexy
licensing fees, but considering all Nintendo's doing in evidence of their ability to
learn from mistakes, I don't see why they would screw that up with restrictive
licensing costs. Just because the company is wise enough not to advertise its
third-party errors doesn't mean it hasn't learned from them.
As a final note, the PS2's DVD playback abilities have only segregated the
system's market in Japan. Many people are buying the system as a cheap DVD
player; when developers look at the PS2's sell-through stats, they aren't
necessarily indicative of the number of actual gamers composing the user
base. That can frighten away game designers deciding which system to program
for. And as much as some people would like to believe, someone with no
interest in video games isn't suddenly going to develop that interest because
their DVD player doubles as a console.
My inner-Nintendo fanboy required me to say as much.
-Drew |
You're right I've made the assumption that Nintendo will have the same
licensing issues as before, even though there's little evidence for this and a fair
amount below that this won't be the case. By bad.
As to your second point, I gotta question your logic here. It's true that
if someone's buying the PS2 as a DVD player, they may not be inclined to ever
buy a game for the system. However, human nature being what it is, I can't
imagine that being a turnoff for developers they'll simply see that group as a
vast untapped market waiting to be tapped by someone with a good enough
game. If anything, I'd think the promise of bringing in so many new people into
gaming would be a big incentive for PS2 development. But I guess we'll just
have to wait and see to find out who's right.
Objectivity? In DA? What
alternate reality are you from? |
CJ,
"The world is different now, and I doubt anyone will ever so completely
dominate the market as Nintendo did, but I'm impressed with what I've seen
so far. Big N may really have a shot this time around."
Well, if they can impress you with two pictures and a bunch of promises
than really we won't have worry about how well Nintendo will do over here.
It's pretty much got you sold already. Seriously, you haven't seen ANY games
yet, just a demo picture of Samus running in 3D. So much for being
'objective'.
While I myself am usually an avid Nintendo fan, I'm not impressed at all
with this badly named, misshapen box. And while the big N's franchises
continue to sell whatever console they are marketed too, I think that in
this new console race, we might start seeing people who no longer jump on
whichever console has the next Zelda or Mario. You said as much yourself,
and who knows what they're going to do to the next incarnation of Metroid.
Nintendo has a lot of apologizing to do to its most loyal supporters who
were burned on the N64. I'm not 'just going buy it because it has Mario'
anymore. It better have some damn RPGs this time around.
-Red Raven, who is now starting to grow out of Nintendo
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I don't have to be objective read the disclaimer. All I have to do (and
this is more of a self-imposed restriction) is give opposing viewpoints equal time
and not belittle them too much while I'm doing it.
That said, you're dead on when you say nostalgia alone won't be
sufficient to sell the Cube. RPGs are indeed key, especially for readers of this
column. But if the licensing agreements are competitive with Sony, and if the
system is developer friendly, the box should see it's fair share of RPGs. That's not
the same thing as getting Square back, but it's a start.
Bigger !=
Better? |
re: GBA Screen
The penalties for using full SNES resolution:
1. Double the size of the GBA.
2. Double the cost of the GBA.
3. Double the batteries, which then leads to additional cost and additional
weight.
That alone is enough to quash the idea. Why, exactly, would I want to buy a
glorified Apple Newton (the old, clunky/large PDA)?
And the SNES ports are coming by the dozen.
re: Licensing Costs
Might be an idea to investigate that before you hold the fort. By your same
logic I could also assume that we will have to flip over the PS2 in order to
keep it from freezing.
But thats just my opinion. Anything more substantial than an opinion could
be unhealthy.
Richard "KZ" Knight
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I think you're half right on this one, KZ. A larger screen on the GBA might
cause a slight size increase, but not double the size of the machine, any more
than laptop sizes have increased significantly as screens moved from 9-inch
passive matrices to 14-inch active matrices. Cost is a factor, but the original
Game Boy ran on 4 double As, and I don't know how much that hurt sales.
Still, as I said yesterday, the subset of gamers who won't buy without
a large screen is probably not a significant consideration for Nintendo here, so
it's a moot point.
Avast ye scurvy dogs, there
be pirates ahead! |
Heya Chris, figured I would answer some questions and
throw out
an opinion or two for kicks.
The GAMECUBE modem will plug into one of the slots beneath the
system, and according to J.T. Kauffman, the system won't sit any
higher with it included.
My main concern here are comments made on the storage media,
namely capacity and the proprietary nature. Firstly, companies
have shown the space of a DVD to be completely unnecessary in
making games - most Dreamcast games have come in under 800 megs
in size, and most PlayStation 2 games are still appearing on
normal CDs. Until there is some technological breakthrough that
requires insane storage capacities, you can fit more than enough
within 1.5 gigs, or simply use two or three of the cheap discs.
I have only one word regarding proprietary media: piracy. I
don't think the average gamer appreciates just how much money a
company like Nintendo loses in the Asian marketplace due to
piracy. There are entire swaths of the continent where legit
games are exponentially *harder* to find than pirated versions.
I had the honor of chatting w/Howard Lincoln (former Nintendo of
America chief) for a bit at this past E3, and he still saw
piracy as the one issue which threatened the breakout growth the
gaming industry is capable of.
Is control over licensing an issue in storage medium? We seem
to forget that a console maker can exert that control no matter
what format is used. It isn't as if companies suddenly are
allowed to do whatever they want just because the medium itself
isn't proprietary. We should've learned that by missing Vib
Ribbon and other games which didn't meet SCEA's anti-2D
graphical standards, non-proprietary CDs be damned.
I hate to self-promote (and you can cut this from the letter if
you like), but Howard Lincoln addressed the issue of licensing
fees himself in his
response to the first Wiretap. If Nintendo cuts piracy as
much as the GAMECUBE is possible of, it will be a great thing
for everyone who plays games. The format also streams a good
bit faster than normal DVDs according to people who know more
about this than I do.
Sounds like a fine overall media choice to me.
-Ed M.
GIA Agent
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Right as usual, Ed. When Mr. Lincoln himself is suggesting that Nintendo
might do things differently this time around regarding licensing fees, it should be
clear even to me that things are gonna turn around. And if anything, I suspect
storage requirements may decrease with the next-gen systems. Think
about it the big consumer of space with the PSX was FMV, but with the PS2
(and presumably the Cube) capable of showing FF8's dance scene in real time,
there's really no need for movie clips anymore. Part of me wants to say that
developers will fill that extra space up somehow, but 1.5 gigs should be plenty
to start off with.
Now, whether or not Nintendo's method will be successful against
piracy is another issue altogether. If the DVD encryption scheme can be cracked,
than no widespread software protection scheme is likely to do much better.
Nintendo's main claim to safety is liable to be that it's the only one who can put
out those discs, but I'd suspect even that. Still, you're right that cutting down on
piracy is a Good Thing for us (lower prices, at the very least) so I wish Nintendo
the best of luck.
Number one single with a bullet |
The console itself looks too boxy and plain for my tastes,
but the size
of the thing is amazing (think eight jewel cases stacked on each other).
The controller *does* look fruity, but then again, so does the N64
controller. I seriously doubt Miyamoto would design something that
didn't work. It seems from the Spaceworld shots that he's holding the
controller comfortably in his hand, so it can't be that bad.
As for the storage issue, from what I've gathered, the discs are
actually "CD single" sized DVDs, with an encryption scheme. CD singles
in Japan are about 8 cm in diameter (I've never purchased a single over
here, so I don't know if singles here also ship in 8 cm discs) and work
in any CD player or CD-ROM that has the inner groove. Since CD singles
are pressed in the same way regular-sized CDs are, I'm pretty confident
that Nintendo's discs are "DVD singles" in terms of dimensions. They're
actually cheaper to manufacture than standard sized discs, but it all
boils down to how much Nintendo is charging for royalities.
-Ayla Sakura
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If we cross-reference this to Ed's letter, this may not be a good thing.
Think about it if Nintendo's discs really are fairly straightforward to make (and
I'd tend to agree with your "DVD single" idea) then that means they can be
pirated that much more easily. And if Nintendo still faces the same kind of losses
they're currently seeing in Asia, they may have no choice but to jack up the
licensing fees.
8 jewel cases... I hadn't thought of it in those terms before, but that's
positively miniscule. Now I'm afraid I'll accidentally send it flying with a wave of
my hand. That case better be made out of lead, Nintendo.
Closing Comments:
I is out of here for the weekend, people, although without Chrono Cross
I'm not sure what the point of having this much free time is. Maybe I can get
ahead on my programming or something. Either way, have fun with AK, and I'll
see you Monday.
-Chris Jones, would trade a Cube for a chance to play Square |
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